but the fact is 30, 40 people we're talking about, is going to take a long time to get through to them. that's why we have to take action more quickly to head it off. >> that's what i'm getting at. before you came on air with us, ted rowlands out in peoria, illinois talking to the people and i'm telling you, it is next to impossible to find a man on the street to interview who said, go for it, keep it up, keep up the good work, dig in, do not allow this shutdown to stop you from your principles of defunding obama care, no one is saying that on the streets. is the blowback from right now worse than the celebration from those constituents who say the tea partiers to the hill to say rein in the spending. >> these 30, 40 cruz people tell you everywhere they go in their district say to keep going. i think they live in their own echo chambers. my district, my area of long island, ronald reagan had over 100,000 votes. most of my district is strongly

opposed to obama care. no one, almost no one is coming up to me and telling me to shut down the government. they realize you play by the rules, these issues are decided in elections. we have lost the last election. we lost the presidential election, democrats control the senate. only way we can repeal obama care is by doing it the same way they passed it get it repealed in both houses of congress and get a republican president to sign that repeal into law. the way we're going now we're never able to do that. >> seem likes now, especially this week in particular, either the media is universally hated and we are targeted as evil doers for asking tough questions, i'm sure you heard about dana bash attacked by senator harry reid for daring to ask about piecemeal funding and i've been attacked by both democrats and republicans for daring to ask such foolish questions that don't alie with their philosophies and strategy, and then there's ted cruz who, you know, in a commercial

lambasting other republicans. this is getting out of control. is this now a battle for headlines and saving jobs on capitol hill, or saving speakerships, or is someone going to blink and finally realize people are hungry and living collect to check and the economy's going to collapse if you continue on with this, you know, with this impasse? >> there's a lot of blame here. i give ted cruz most of the blame. i've been critical of republicans. let me say it's time for president obama to step in. i'm not saying he has to negotiate on obama care but he's head of the democratic party. he's president of the united states who is i nonpolitical position. he has an obligation to try to end this all he can. i can't imagine johnson or roosevelt or reagan standing on the sidelines and giving an occasional speech. i'm not saying make concessions. he as president has power, he can put things on the table. he can make it part of a larger deal. he can keep his obama care. he passed it he's entitled to

that. it's up to us to repeal it. as far as ted cruz -- >> i think that's -- >> politicians who attack you, ashleigh i would never attack you. >> you're adorable. you said i'm not saying that the president has to negotiate on obama care, and that's a lost what the consensus about last night's meeting that went nowhere was that at least the democrats are saying we will start to work with you on the debt ceiling resolution and start making concessions down the road but we're not going to negotiate on obama care. are you saying what the president did yesterday was the right thing? >> no, i'm saying the president can be -- i think more engaged he's the president of the united states and rather than say what he's not going to do, whether it's behind the scenes or whatever, a president of the united states can bring people together and whatever he has to do, try to make that deal. and whether it's, again, i'm not saying he has to negotiate obama care, find a way to negotiate to bring this to resolve it, he's

the powers of the presidency and try to use them again. lyndon johnson would have found a way to resolve this. roosevelt would have found a way to resolve this. reagan would have found a way. the president has to get in there. it's wrong when the rest of the world looks at this and see government shutdown and the president disengaged other than an occasional speech. if the government of france shut down tomorrow, the president of france was not speaking out, we would have no idea who the speaker is. all we know is the president of france is on the sidelines. imnot critical of us being in this position now, but now that we are here, it is what it is and he's the president of the country. >> i can talk to you for an hour. it's an open invitation. i like your tone and you're a straight shooter. congressman king live from capitol hill. i stole four minutes from the next show. continuing coverage of the government shutdown continues now straight ahead with suzanne malveaux. "cnn newsroom" continuing day three of the government

shutdown. i'm suzanne malveaux. >> i'm michael holms. a fascinating interview with representative king, quite extraordinary comments about representative cruz, senator cruz, remarkable stuff, wasn't it. >> divided republicans, we heard from the president just moments ago as well. he's making his case to the country, he's taking his case directly to the american people, also of course his message to congress that paralyzing shutdown has to end so american people can get back to work. the president says it can happen right away, right away, if house speaker john boehner just simply allows a clean vote on the spending bill. >> so my simple message today is, call a vote. call a vote. put it on the floor and let every individual member of congress make up their own minds and they can show the american people, are you for a shutdown or not? if you're not for a shutdown, vote for the bill. if you're for a shutdown, you

won't vote for a bill. we don't have to twist anybody's arms. but that way the american people will be clear about who's responsible for the shutdown or alternatively, they would be clear that this is something that doesn't make sense and we should go ahead and make sure that we're looking out for the american people. it should be that simple. >> so president obama holding a republican feet to the fire, pointing out as a small group of republicans who are preventing the house from actually voting on the budget. >> we're covering all angles of the shutdown this hour. brianna keilar standing by at the white house, dana bash on capitol hill, christine romans is going to tell us what you need to know if you are out of work with no pay because of the shutdown. >> so brianna, let's go to you first here. this is something that we heard the president in very forceful terms over last hour saying, look, there's not negotiating over passing the budget to run the government. he said he would sign a bill

today, all that has to happen is the house speaker boehner has to bring the bill to the floor. can he do something else besides taking his case to the american people? can he call boehner aside, take him into the white house, face to face, and somehow fake this happen or is this the strategy that we're going to see in the coming days? >> reporter: well, certainly i think the white house doesn't feel that that would be an effective strategy at this point. so this, suzanne, going to the american people, frequently has been his strategy when it comes to dealing with the divided congress. what he's really zeroing in on right now is this division in the republican ranks in the house. this is one of the reasons. >> reporter: why senate democrats and the house feel they're in a position of strength here. it's also interesting because he's dealing, of course, with competing public opinions here and that's why he's trying to sway it. republicans, of course, have roughly half of the country not

fans of obama care. president obama has more than half of the country who say there should not be a government shutdown. so you also hear him trying to even appeal to some of the folks who don't like obama care by saying, you know, a shut down doesn't shut down obama care. obama care is up and running. he's trying to chip away at public opinion that some republicans are getting as well. but we're also hearing him emphasize more now the debt ceiling, suzanne. that's kind of the turn that we've started to see here in the last few days. >> brianna, too, what we're hearing from representative king, you know, bashing really senator cruz. you can see these little divisions perhaps coming up between that hard core group of right wing republicans who are behind this linking of obama care with the funding. what is the sense there about that? is that something they're talking about there at the white house? >> reporter: that is something that they're definitely looking at in terms of the number of republicans who are saying there

should be a clean funding bill. president obama keeps now making the point that if that were to go to the floor, that that is something that would pass. he is probably right. i think that's probably something that dana bash is hearing on the hill as well. there's something that peter king said that sort of struck me as well. not only was he attacking a member of his own party on their tactics here but also saying that he thought president obama needs to be be more involved here but also said he's not saying he needs to negotiate on obama care. that you had it this division between moderate republicans and some more conservative republicans. >> extraordinary stuff. thanks so much. let's switch over to capitol hill, epicenter of the impasse, if you like. we are hearing from republicans, again, making their case against obama care. let's have a listen to that before we go to dana. >> i think the speaker and i have both said that the republican position is, we believe we should fund this

government but we also believe that this should not be any special treatment for anyone and that is why we believe the right solution to that is to provide more delay of the individual mandate under the health care law. >> want to bring in dana bash. what we heard from the president here is pretty much the fact, that look, this could come forward for a vote, get enough votes to support both in the senate and the house, democrats and republicans, a clean spending bill here, this bill that would fund the government, the resolution continuing, boehner refuses to do that at this point. is there anybody, anybody that you're talking to that is trying to take -- twist his arm, vns him and say, we need to move forward and shut this thing down? >> reporter: absolutely, there are some people trying to do that. but what john boehner has been doing, which is down the hall behind me in his office, calling moderates in in small groups saying give me more time, i need

more time. the president is absolutely right, there are vast numbers of democrats and republicans who would vote for a bill to fund the government if it were on the floor. congressman devon nunez of california was on with us last evening, a republican, he wants this kind of bill. he thinks it could be 200 republicans to vote for it. this could pass by like 400 votes. here's the but, that group of 20, 30 hard core conservatives who are saying, you know, go, go, go, keep it going they are powerful. the very big reality for john boehner and his fellow leaders is that if they were to go that route, they probably would not be -- they would be -- there would be problems for them in their leadership. that's the reality that even the president knows that full well, democratic leaders know that full well, what speaker boehner is up against. he didn't want to go down this route to begin with and he's here and he's stuck. >> that small minority what is it that they want?

is it a matter of some concession of not raising debt ceiling? what are they asking for now from leadership? >> if i can add a rider to that, why are they so powerful? >> reporter: the reason they are so powerful is because they are -- well, let me answer the first question from suzanne first of what they want. one of the congressmen was actually quoted saying that they don't really know what they want and that is part of the problem. many of them come from extremely conservative districts and they're getting phone calls from their conservatives say, go, go, go, keep it going, shut it down, and that's the kind of feedback they're getting. it's not the what's going on with you guys in washington. and that's what makes them so powerful because they're getting that advice or those applause from their constituents back home. the other thing that make them powerful they're a hefty part of the republican party and they

are being egged on by ted cruz and his grassroots. he does have a very important group of people out there who he has also been egging on all summer long and a lot of members of congress are concerned about being the ones to push john boehner publicly, these are republicans i'm talking about, because they're concerned about getting a primary challenge from the right. so there's so many different dynamics here, it's not just about the vast public opinion as brianna was talking about, there are very important constituencies, small as they might be, but powerful in these districts that are driving this. >> thank you so much. we have so many questions, we're bombarding you with all of them. we'll get back to you as soon as there are developments. christine romans, stand by. want to talk with you as well about what people can do essentially if they're furloughed. we'll get to all of that after a quick break here.

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government shutdown has furloughed almost 800,000

people, that is just people who work for uncle sam. it does not include people who work for companies with government contracts. >> take this, for example, the company that makes black hawk helicopters, it could sent as many as 2,000 people home starting next week if the shutdown continues. here is just a fraction of the other agencies either slowed down or completely closed right now. >> the u.s. commerce department, more than 40,000 people are not working today, half of the department of defense civilian workforce, 400,000 people, they've been furloughed. the shutdown does not apply to active duty military men women. >> so no troops are furloughed at least for now. also for now, military paychecks are not affected. and the peace corps is not bringing anyone home from overseas duty. but most peace corps employees here in the united states are furloughed. that's another 620 people to the list. >> so furloughed government workers suddenly have to wonder,

what are we going to do now? how do we pay our bills? should they file for unemployment? what happens if they can't make mortgage payments? >> who's next, it's not just government workers about those caught over in the spillover effects. christine romans joins us now. what options does a furloughed worker have? >> so many federal workers trying to decide if it lasts this week i'm not going to file for unemployment, but if it lasts through october it starts to make sense filing for unemployment benefits and that's what so many, hundreds of thousands of federal workers are considering here right now. so furloughed workers are eligible for jobless benefits and jobless benefits are not affected by the shutdown, part of the mandatory spending part of the budget. beware, you might have to pay it back if there's a retroactive pay for furloughed workers. and watch out for taxes. that's something that could be an issue if you don't have

your -- if you don't have your withholdings correct, you might have to pay taxes on jobless benefits and trying to figure out the part -- it could be just kind of a hassle. you want this to be over quickly. another quick point for people, if you have student loans, so many of you do, right, trying to figure out how to pay the student loans, look up economic hardship deferment. try to get a deferment or a forbearance. do it in one month increments if you can. start investigating that immediately to try to get relief from your student loan bill while out of a job. >> as this thing progresses, day by day, potentially week by week, is there anything that you advise people not do, that actually might be a downfall if you're in a situation where you are not working? >> you have to be careful trying to raid your retirement to pay your bills we've seen it again and again, people raid retirement because they think they'll be able to faye back, even if they take a loan, i'll be able to pay it back, life

gets in the way. the penalties of raiding 401 k can be significant, even if you take a loan and can't pay it back. government workers have tsp, it's just like -- it's like a thrift savings plan, like a 401(k), same rules. investigate it carefully. you want to look at the withdrawals and the fees. remember, your intentions can be great but a lot of times people in a pinch raid their retirement and then they can't pay it back and then they have lost the nest egg and, remember, touching your retirement is the sign of economic armageddon. you must do everything else before that. >> christine, as always, thanks. appreciate your advice. something you're watching as well. we'll have a look at now. day three of the government shutdown. wall street concerned about a possible default, that is the debt ceiling. you heard the president saying wall street should be worried. down 1 and a tenth percent.

european markets down again. international monetary fund, christine lagarde warning about the debt ceiling saying it's a threat to the global economy, not just this country. >> the republican party, they are split. some republicans pushing their party pass a clean budget bill, no strings atamped. hear from republican congressman erik paulsen from minnesota who says he's willing to break away to get this budget passed next.

a few republican member of the house are breaking with majority and leadership in hopes of ending the shutdown, getting government simply back to work. >> pressing for a new funding bill, one without the demands on president obama's health care program. minnesota republican erik paulsen is one of them. he even tweeted these words through his followers, quote, during the shutdown i have asked to have my pay withheld. >> congressman erik paulsen joining us live from capitol hill. congressman, you say you're willing to work for no pay, what a lot of folks are having to do now furloughed to get to the end of this here. the president brings up a good point. if speaker boehner brings there is to the floor by our count by dana bash's count, there are enough republicans and democrats to get this passed. do you have any influence, what can you do or your caucus do to

get boehner to bring that to the floor? >> this is where i'm trying to influence and thanks for having me on today. there are ways forward. i had a conversation with the speaker yesterday. there are bipartisan ways forward. in order to resolve this, there is going to have to be bipartisan support. the medical device tax repeal is the only proposal that had the most bipartisan votes coming out of the house and has the opportunity in the senate to gain tractions and fixes a part of obama care in repealing an awful tax and it has bipartisan support and we can address the situation reopening the government. a great opportunity. it could be the real linchpin to move this opportunity forward. the leadership recognizes that as well. >> you know what the president would veto such a bill, he would not under any circumstance sign a bill that either changes, defunds or changes in some way his obama care plan. >> well, first of all, it is important to note, though, that -- i don't think it's helpful to have finger point, lines drawn in the sand.

people need to sit down and talk through it. 79 senators ve s voted to repeas device tax. knowing we have to have the bipartisan component to resolve this situation, this is a way forward. and members rank and file members are bringing this forward as well. you'll see more attention on this issue in the near future. the white house, i think, may come along, if they have pay fors for it, that's been an issue in the past. we're keeping that door open and they are as well. >> perhaps that's a carat that can be offered up. something we asked dana bash, you're on the inside there, hearing other republicans say, there's this 20, 30, maybe 40 hard core conservatives who are behind all of this and there are a lot of moderate republicans going, we're getting dragged into it. why is that core group so powerful within the gop? >> right now everyone feels they have been dragged into it even the hard line conservatives that wanted to take this line of

strategy have now actually modified their positions and voted for just the medical device tax repeal or one-year delay in the mandate. we've all got. dragged into it mine constituents want to see resolution, most lawmakers want to see resolution now. we need everyone to sit down and actually talk. we have averted past shutdowns two years ago when both sides were talking. we haven't had conversations going on now. >> this was led by senator cruz and those along with him. a lot of republicans aren't happy about that. why are they so powerful? >> well, first of all, the challenge for anyone who is in leadership is getting everybody on the team to move forward with unity and that's been a challenge for sure on the republican side right now. in the en, no doubt, i'm not a supporter of obama care, but we do need to move on. we'll get through the next election, we'll have an opportunity to really make a difference. we can dismantle parts of the law and the medical device tax has bipartisan support to do

that. i think it's a lynn. pin to move it forward. it not just one faction. i think a lot of folks recognize we've got challenges that we can meet and what are the ways forward? that's what we need to figure out soon. >> congressman, i want to bring up, this is senator barbara boxer, explaining how things could move forward and of course that is the speaker bringing the legislation before the house. i want you to hear how she put this. >> speaker boehner could just bring up that vote right now, in five, ten minutes, and we would open the government and then we would sit down and talk about all of the things they care about, what's really interesting is, the republicans in the house have been gutting the nih. so i'm glad they now care about it, that's good. >> so congressman, i mean how long does this go on until there is some sort of -- some sort of movement or demand to get the speaker to the floor to make this thing happen, to move this

forward. he is the one person who can do that. >> i would point out this, though, because when the house did pass a couple of our bills we sent over to the senate, they did avoid the vote on the medical device tax. they combined it with another bill, so senator boxer had an opportunity to break it apart. if we can get that vote separately in the senate, it's exactly as she said there will be bipartisan support, we can resolve it. it's not just the speaker holding something up, it's the majority leader of the senate. both sides need to figure out, come together, and talk. our constituents demand that. as an elected official i want to see that happen. >> are you talking? can you tell us what's going on? >> there is -- there are conversations. in fact, there's a group of growing members, young somewhere newer members that haven't been here as long trying to break the logjam to make sure issues like the medical device tax repeal are entered into the debate, the discussion. i had my conversation with my leadership, speaker boehner yesterday and said, hey, this could be a possible way forward. that door's not closed.

i've been speaking with u.s. senators from minnesota and they're open to the idea of repealing the medical device tax, too. maybe it's an idea of sitting down at the table with the leaders and get the rank and file members behind it. >> quickly, people watching all have opinions on this. i mean, congress has a 10% approval rating. are you surprised? >> no, i'm not surprised at all. i'm not in the approval rating support the approval rating as well. congress has broken -- congress is broken. washington is broken. the president is doing the finger pointing as well. folks are expecting us come together to sit down. we have the challenge with the debt ceiling come up. vast majority of the public said it shouldn't be negotiated over. we need to be prepared for that to have serious talks, negotiations, to get it right because 17 trillion debt, that's nothing to scoff at. we need to address that with future plans and make sure we don't default but we've got to have a plan in place so it's reformed and fixed in the future.

>> thank you very much. >> at least talking about talking. hope there's going to be action. looking at the clock there. 60 hours, day 3. >> and counting. >> and counting. more needs to be done. hear from people essentially squeezed by the government shutdown. how this veteran, she could lose two pay and two disability checks if the fight continues. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it.

welcome back. day three of the government shutdown. waiting for live events from the white house also capitol hill. the daily white house briefing. that's due to start any minute now. we are watching it, as you can imagine. we'll take you there as soon as it gets under way. in 15 minutes from now, hear from the house minority leader, nancy pelosi at her weekly news conference. and of course, we did hear from president obama last hour making his case to the country and congress that the paralyzing shutdown must end so that american people and get back to work. the president says it can happen

right away if house speaker john boehner allows a clean vote on the spending bill. >> the only thing preventing people from going back to work and basic research, starting back up, farmers and small business owners get their loans, only thing preventing that right now today in the next five minutes, is that speaker john boehner won't even let the bill get a yes or no vote because he doesn't want to anger the extremists in his party. that's -- that's all. that's what this whole thing is about. >> the president says he is willing to negotiate but only after congress reopens the government. suzanne? >> so you heard the president, but it is really not about the big numbers that politicians throw around. it's about people. like robin conley, a furloughed federal worker, a disabled veteran a single parent with two kids, one in college. her entire livelihood depends on

the federal government. robin conley, she joins us this morning. thank you so much for just being here and taking the time to explain this here because you've got a 17-year-old, a 17-year-old freshman in college, a 13-year-old, two young boys, you've got to raise. what does this mean for you? >> it means -- i don't know. it means uncertainty and that's a scary thought. i was taught i can have a piece of the pie if i lived right, law abiding, attended school, got an education and all of that is threatened with the government shutdown. >> we are talking about -- we are talking about income, we are talking about your paycheck here. talking about disability. you have an amazing story. you broke your back as part of active duty and that requires medical care, you're on disability. explain. >> well, what happens is i am a disabled american vet and my paycheck is dependent upon congress. so i really don't know what i'm going to do. i have student loans from

achieving master's degree, i don't know how those are going to be paid. i'll take christine's advice and get the deferment so i won't default. but it's a bad situation. not just me but for the american people. >> what have you told your sons? >> i told them to believe in the dream but now that dream is threatened. so i don't know what to tell them. they're affected significantly. they want to do things, they want to do our normal go out to dinner, go out to the movie, we can't do any of those things. my son had a scheduled field trip to the capitol to visit the monument, 60 students, now that is threatened as well. >> and the one who is in college, does he worry for you? worried for the family, i'm going to pick up another job? >> right. he works part time but he's apply as at other areas, other employers, to work an additional part-time job. i don't want him to be forced to drop out of school to help me,

you know, keep our family intact. >> it's a burden enough, a strong enough job, big enough job that you have. one of the things the president said, and i want you to listen to this, it's not just about the government shutdown, because this lasted for three days but the possibility of defaulting on our debt on our loans. here's how he says this is coming, this is looming, this is next. >> in a government shutdown social security checks still go out on time. in an economic shutdown if we don't raise the debt ceiling, they don't go out on time. in a got shutdown, disability benefits arrive on time. in an economic shutdown, they don't. in a government shutdown, millions of americans, not just federal workers, everybody faces real economic hardship. >> if we default on our loans, what does that mean for you? >> it means uncertainty. about means i don't have a

house. i don't have a car. i don't have the credit that i've worked hard to establish. i just don't know. and that's a scary thought, not being in control of my own destiny when i put things in my life to have control. >> message to congress, anything to say to people in washington? it's discouraging. >> it's very discouraging. i would like congress to know that as we approach, you know, going on a week of the shutdown, the american people want to work. i represent -- i'm the union rep for the atlantic district office of the american federation of american employees. we want to eradicate discrimination in the workplace. we can't do that if we're shut down. we want to pay our bills on time. we already lost five days with the previous furlough. our paychecks were late for four days. you know, with the loom of the debt ceiling we don't know. >> you want to work. >> we want to work, bottom line.

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it is day three of open enrollment for president obama's affordable care act. dr. sanjay gupta popped by an enrollment call center in baltimore. he tells us workers are reporting fewer glitches. >> we've been in three states in three days. very different states, south carolina, kentucky, and now maryland. south carolina, about one in five people uninsured down there. the federal government running their exchange. kentucky, more of a state divided, democratic govern, two

senators paul and mcdonald against the land. the democratic governor got there through. inside the nerve center of this program here, people taking calls about the affordable care act's implementation. a busy aplace as you imagine to get things down. maryland has had its share of glitches but hearing since 1:00 in the morning last night they have been able to get a software patch to fix some of the problems. the problem seemed to revolve around the ability to log-in. since 1:00 they've had 1,000 more accounts created. so, nearly 2,000 in total now here. and those numbers expected to increase. lots of questions, as you might imagine. we want to bring in maria, a call center representative, to talk about this. what are some of the most common questions. >> i have a preexisting condition, can i enroll, how do i get started? how much do plans cost. >> the crux of the whole thing.

on the application, they're not asked about this. >> right. process is more streamlined, more simple. >> if they say i have diabetes, cancer, heart disease. >> you still can get health insurance. >> doesn't affect the cost. >> right. >> what about the cost? is there a range of costs? what are you telling people. >> without subsidies it can be as low as $150 for the 25-year-old, if you're older it could be $300, $400 a month. if you get tax credits, it could be lower, $50, $75 a month. >> i hear from a lot of people talking they're just frightened of doing this. people signing up for anything makes them nervous. you're here to shepherd them through. what advice would you give people? >> give us a call, go to our website. we have navigators, local health departments, department of social services, we have insurance brokers out there. there's a lot of avenues to get help. if it goes well, it doesn't take that long, right? >> it doesn't take long.

we can guide you through the process in 15 or 20 minutes. it depends how many questions you have and what you're shopping for. >> thank you very much. it's worth pointing out, if you look across the country, estimates are if you account for subsidies, medicaid dollars in those states it could be 6 in 10 people paying $100 for monthly premiums. historic times. this hasn't happened in 50 years, health care changes in the country. you're getting a look at what that look like in maryland. back to you. >> dr. sanjay gupta will help answer a lot more questions about the affordable care act this weekend here on cnn. coming up, secretary of state john kerry out with a message for israel's leader. the u.s. is not fooled by iran. but it has to look into all options to stop it from delivering nuclear weapons. >> it would be diplomatic malpractice of the worst order

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game on this within for the u.s. military academies despite the shut down. they want to see something good. army bens governmenten college saturday, played in boston. navy's taking on air force in an al ice. the navy air force game is allows because paying for it involves nongovernment appropriation funds. >> the academy games reviewed week by week, if the shutdown continues. interesting story, people are trying to make people feel better, being furloughed, maybe freebies, something to offer here. >> interesting freebies, too. >> let's see. what do we have here? being made available?

>> all sorts of stuff. a lot of stuff made available to some furloughed workers. d.c. chef jose andres, his three area restaurants giving government employees free sandwiches every day until the government reopens. >> zebra burger, free burgers. howard theater in washington, federal workers free passes. great place. three upcoming events including concert featuring hip-hop star big boy. >> karl dealership in silver spring, maryland, free services including oil changes and tire rotations. one for me, free knitting lessons in alexandria, virginia. >> in case you need to get some booties. >> get a burger, a send witch, go to the knitting lesson. >> thanks for watching. coming up, "cnn newsroom," wolf blitzer speaks with debbie

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